Archive
Categories

Review – Gerd Schultze-Rhonhof: “1939 – The War with Many Fathers”

Schultze-Rhonhof: 1939 - Der Krieg, der viele Väter hatteby Manfred Kleine-Hartlage, first issued october 24, 2009: Gerd Schultze-Rhonhof: 1939 – Der Krieg, der viele Väter hatte.

Translation by War Blogger, revised

[Update september 28, 2011: War Blogger has produced a video with the following text. So if you prefer videos, click here!]

One does not wrong the retired Bundeswehr Major-General Gerd Schultze-Rhonhof, who examines the leadup to the Second World War if one labels him a revisionist. Those, however, who use the label as an accusation should be aware of the ideologic tradition they join in doing so: “Revisionists”, these were the people within the SPD (at that time: Socialist Party of Germany) of August Bebel and later in all other Marxist organizations who sought to revise (from Latin re-videre: look anew) and correct the teachings of Marx and Engels. In countries where communists came to power the stigma of “revisionism” was to be avoided like the plague if only because at certain times the mere accusation could cost the suspect his head.

Scientific progress, however, is dependent on constant revision, on new approaches and the questioning of familiar perspectives and established paradigms. The word “revisionist”, if used as a reproach, disqualifies only those who use it, not the ones it is meant to label. For those, it may well be an honorary title.

Of course, not every revision, regardless of the scientific discipline, is useful just because it is one such. It must be compatible with the existing data or source material and its explantory power should  at least equal the established theoretical paradigm. By advocating the idea that the Second World War had “many fathers” Schultze-Rhonhof argues against a view of history (one that professional historians within their trade depict in a lot more differentiated way than it is presented in, for example, school books or news magazines) which can be summarized as follows:

Already the German Empire (before 1914) strived for German domination of at least Europe and, if possible, the whole world. After the defeat in the Great War, this desire, supported by a Social Darwinist ideology, was the program – in moderate and radical variants – of the German Right, most radically embodied in Hitler and his Nazi party. Hitler from the beginning sought to extend Germany’s power base through the successive elimination of neighboring states to gain the strength to fight against Great Powers, to disable France and Great Britain, to destroy the Soviet Union, thereby gaining “Lebensraum” for Germans and perhaps to create the basis for a war against America and thus finally push forward to world domination.

The fascinating element of this view of history is – even before it comes to sources and facts – its narrative structure: there is a clear division between good and evil, and there is a suspense curve: Evil is built up until it becomes almost, but only almost, overpowering, is then put in its place by  a small Gallic village – the United Kingdom – and finally destroyed by an intrepid white knight, America. And there is a moral of the story.

This structure is doubly familiar: on the one hand, it corresponds to that of a fairy tale, on the other – with the motive of the final battle between good and evil – to that of the Apocalypse. Of course, that does not mean that it cannot be true. You just have to be aware to what extent this established view of history meets the expectations of quality literature, and to what extent it serves quasi-religious needs.

Many years ago pedestrians were lured into a trap by [the German version of] “Hidden Camera” by a passer-by, apparently with a map in hand who asked for directions to the railway station and had the unknowing test subjects explain the way on his “map”, which in fact was a professional cutting pattern for clothing from a German DIY magazine. The dialogues resulting were something like this:

“So, you must now go straight along here…”
“At ‘yarn’?”
“Yeah, and then right here…”
‘Towards ‘pocket ‘?”
“Yes, yes. And turn left.”
“‘Passing ‘Button hole’?”
“Exactly…”

The willingness to accept the offered definition of a situation (in this case the pattern as a “map”) as “true” can be so strong that apparent inconsistencies with this definition simply are not perceived. And do not believe that this willingness is limited to the surprised subjects of “Hidden Camera”.

For example, for years I had been convinced that the the so-called Hossbach-Protocol of 5 November 1937 contained Hitler’s declaration of his intention to launch a global war, and as such proved of the correctness of the above-cited view of history. And I had read the protocol several times: it contained Hitler’s announcement to attack Czechoslovakia and Austria, considerations under which circumstances such an attack could be performed and estimates of how the other powers would behave. It was a serious enough document for the prosecution at the Nuremberg trials, which indeed were about the charge of planning an “aggressive war”. It certainly was an important piece of evidence, but not a proof of a master plan for world domination. Although I should have known better, it was only Schultze-Rhonhof’s analysis that spurred me to read it more carefully. This is just an example of how strong the influence of an apparently obvious interpretation can be, and how helpful it is sometimes “to consider matters anew “.

Schultze-Rhonhof apparently starts from the assumption that there was no master plan, and that Hitler’s foreign policy was based, above all, on the particular tactical considerations of the moment, and he characterizes the stages of that foreign policy. No doubt this assumption is supported by Hitler’s and his policies’ erratic character, by the often extreme fluctuations and reversals, by his penchant for improvisation and the generally chaotic nature of the decision-making in the Nazi state.

The opposite point of view of the predominant interpretation of history, that of Hitler having joined strict dogmatism of theory, strategy and planning with maximal opportunism practice, tactics and conduct contains latent contraditions; the two parts of this view do not seamlessly fit together. It needn’t be wrong, but I can not see what speaks against considering the alternative that Hitler might have acted primarily on the basis of tactical considerations. Perhaps to him, it was more about his own place in history than about the realization of the ideas he had laid down in “Mein Kampf” in 1924, and maybe the thoughts written down therein have more the character of a reservoir of ideas into which he could dip when the need arose, but which he could also ignore as he pleased.

Remarkably, in an adjacent area of research, namely Holocaust Research, fierce opposition exists against the “intentionalist” theory internalized by wide swaths of the public, and it does so in the center of the field, not on the periphery. Especially prominent is Hans Mommsen’s interpretation of the decision process that eventually resulted in the Holocaust, as a process called “cumulative radicalization”. The Nazi regime – this is the thesis in brief – had entangled itself into constraints that by themselves demanded more and more radical approaches as time progressed, finally ending with the “Final Solution”. I believe it is appropriate to adopt the idea of a similar gradual radicalization for the foreign policy of the regime, at least as a hypothesis. In this context, Hitler’s Social Darwinism takes the same role as anti-Semitism does in the structuralist interpretations of the Holocaust: that is the role of a general ideological framework without which the later developments would indeed be unthinkable, but  which is in itself is not an adequate explanans.

Of course, Schultze-Rhonhof makes those assumptions more implicitly rather than explicitly. He does not have the ambition to create an equally comprehensive counter-proposal to oppose the established historical narrative; theoretical considerations in general are less his business. He tries to describe the situation from the perspective of each actor (Hitler, the European powers, the German generals, the German people), and to understand their actions in order to arrive at an overall picture. This is the strength and the weakness of his approach.

The weakness is evident in that a situational analysis in any case does not reach the consistency of the established view of history. Basically, the author leaves it to his reader to decide in which theoretical framework he would place what he has learned.

What the author achieves, however, is to present the extent of the knowledge, experiences and expectations of the historical actors to the reader: Those who grew up in the post-war era can hardly imagine the existential importance which the question of national minorites had. In the time after the Great War one could lose one’s job, be expelled, disowned or killed simply for being the member of a national minority; and since the right to self-determination of Germans was held in especially low regard by the Allies, and large parts of territories with predominantly German populations were handed over to foreign nations, it was Germans who very often were the victims of such practices. Also, few people will know that the idea of “Lebensraum” at that time was neither a specifically Nazi nor German concept. As a matter of fact, such ideas were the foundations of many colonial policies. The large colonial powers, of course did not bemoan the lack of “Living space”, for they had solved the problem for themselves. That in nations like Germany, but also Poland (!) the view was wide-spread that an urgent problem needed to be solved was the result of this predominant streak of thought in Europe.

Of course, concepts of “Lebensraum” met fertile grounds in Germany where the British hunger blockade even after the Armistice of 1918 had resulted in the death of up to a million civilians and thus gave credibility to the thesis of “a people without (enough) space” (especially industrial ressources and agricultural space) which otherwise would have never reached such popularity. This also is a point Schultze-Rhonhof’s book tries to remind the reader of. His depiction of the Allies at Versailles and the injustices committed thereafter does not have the function of serving as a cheap set-off, but serves to illustrate the background against which policies were considered and undertaken back then to those born of later generations.

The author’s love of detail leads to many a insights which give food for thought. For example, many who deal with matters related to WW2 know the sentence attributed to Hitler in which he states:

“My only fear is that some swine submits a proposal for mediation at the last moment!” [“Ich habe nur Angst, dass mir im letzten Moment irgendein Schweinehund einen Vermittlungsvorschlag vorlegt.“]

The statement is from Hitler’s speech in front of the German High Command on 22 August 1939, and in its poignancy it is tailor-made to be popularized and completes the picture of a dictator who constantly pressed for war.
It had always surprised me that Hitler should have used such a vulgar language in front of the arch-conservative High Command without causing consternation, and I had written it of as a byproduct of the detrimental influence of the Nazi-Regime leading to a decline even of the manners of the highest Prussian officers. Schultze-Rhonhof however makes a plausible case for the theory that not only was this sentence never uttered as such (not even in the spirit of the statement), but that the version of the protocol of the speech in question is a forgery which was leaked to the prosecution at the Nuremberg Trials to make the German generals collectively responsible for the outbreak of the war.

With regard to the reception of the book the ferocity is amazing with which the core thesis – that the Second World War had “many fathers” – is challenged: less so by the craft of historians who, as expected, ignored the work of an outsider (Schultze-Rhonhof is not a historian), but specifically by reviewers of the FAZ and the “Welt” newspapers which use the opportunity once again to give food to the suspicion that they serve the media system in the same manner as the CDU/CSU serve the political system: as mere surrogates for conservatism. Interestingly, the question whether what the author states is the truth is of no importance to the two reviews. A higher priority seems to be placed on maintaining a certain kind of official historical narrative for reasons of national education [Volkspädagogik], and be it by defaming the author as a person and pushing him – what else? – into the right corner [in German, the right corner metaphor means you are labelled a Neonazi].

Ironically, the argument that the Second World War had many fathers is far from being a “legend”, as the FAZ reviewer claims:

There is no serious dispute among historians that the Versailles Treaty was a bad design which made German revenge efforts more likely; that Poland was an aggressive power that handled its many ethnic minorities incredibly brutal; that Czechoslovakia protratced her minority issues to the 1930s and made itself become a first class trouble spot; that Poland would rather risk a war with Germany than make any concessions in the Danzig and Corridor questions, and this despite the fact that the quite moderate German demands of late 1938 and early 1939 contained no territorial claims against Poland and were brought forward not with ultimate threats but after years of German-Polish cooperation in a style as it is customary between friendly countries.
And the thesis that Great Britain and its guarantee to Poland and France with its empty promises of military support reinforced Poland’s stubbornness, and perhaps intentionally so, is at least worthy of discussion. Many fathers, indeed.

“But, wait a minute,” goes the typical objection, “aren’t the actions of the other European powers after Hitler’s rise to power ojectively meaningless since Germany was going to start a war for “Lebensraum” in any case, as written in “Mein Kampf”?

No, not as far as Poland is concerned. Poland could have made arrangements with Germany even without joining the Anti-Comintern Pact; Schultze-Rhonhof goes to some length to clarify this point, and I know of no historians who have objected to such a view. The question of whether the consequence of such an understanding would have been a great war (against France, Russia or whoever), can in all honesty not be answered. The ease, however, with which it is affirmed by the established historic narrative may however be less the result of irrefutable source evidence but rather be based on the interpretation offered by the grand narrative of rise and fall of the clever devil Hitler, who already knew in 1923 what he would do in 1943. The mere existence of such a “complete” story seems like a ready-made bed into which one simply has to jump to rest with sweet dreams.

Whether this narrative constitutes a good map or is just equal to another fake pattern of yarn, that is for everbody him- or herself to decide. Schultze-Rhonhof also does not answer that question in the end. He shakes the plausibility of the prevailing interpretation of history in some details by putting the situational and tactical factors in German foreign policy into the spotlight, but he offers no convincing interpretation of his own. The strength of the book of vividly leading the reader into the strange world of the interwar period is paid for by a certain short-sightedness of the book’s general interpretation. The author’s desire to correct a most likely too one-sided perspective of history in turn brings forth a view with blind spots of its own.

Nevertheless: The work offers a wealth of important details that are known to the experts but not to the general public, and which you will most likely not find elsewhere in such a density and clarity. Therefore, it is worth reading and provokes the readers’ contemplation and further questions. No more, no less.

No related posts.

20 Kommentare zu „Review – Gerd Schultze-Rhonhof: “1939 – The War with Many Fathers”“

  • It’s a shame this blog is creating so little feedback despite the high quality content so far. For all the controversy and heated discussions that might have ensued it nonetheless would have been great to foster an exchange with the readers of VFR. However, it seems Auster and his loyal readership are busy discussing the truly important issues of our day and age: Did DSK have sex? And what about Weiner tweeting picks of his wiener? Well, sticking your fingers into your ears and walking away also is one way to deal with a challenge, I guess.

  • It’s a shame this blog is creating so little feedback despite the high quality content so far. For all the controversy and heated discussions that might have ensued it nonetheless would have been great to foster an exchange with the readers of VFR. However, it seems Auster and his loyal readership are busy discussing the truly important issues of our day and age: Did DSK have sex? And what about Weiner tweeting picks of his wiener? Well, sticking your fingers into your ears and walking away also is one way to deal with a challenge, I guess.

  • It’s a shame this blog is creating so little feedback despite the high quality content so far. For all the controversy and heated discussions that might have ensued it nonetheless would have been great to foster an exchange with the readers of VFR. However, it seems Auster and his loyal readership are busy discussing the truly important issues of our day and age: Did DSK have sex? And what about Weiner tweeting picks of his wiener? Well, sticking your fingers into your ears and walking away also is one way to deal with a challenge, I guess.

  • It’s a shame this blog is creating so little feedback despite the high quality content so far. For all the controversy and heated discussions that might have ensued it nonetheless would have been great to foster an exchange with the readers of VFR. However, it seems Auster and his loyal readership are busy discussing the truly important issues of our day and age: Did DSK have sex? And what about Weiner tweeting picks of his wiener? Well, sticking your fingers into your ears and walking away also is one way to deal with a challenge, I guess.

  • @ War Blogger

    Give it a little time. At the end quality will make it.
    But there are a few questions:

    1. Where is the RSS-feed button? (I searched for it. That was the cause I came here today.)
    2. Are there enough links guiding to this blog? Are your own blogs linking to this one? Do the links to this blog in an
    3. Links … specially in english based sites?
    4. What about social media? Does a German-Views Twitter account exist? Is it linked up with similar anglo-saxon sites?
    5. What about commenting in blogs like VDARE, ALTRIGHT, and others with innert links to this blogs?
    6. Think about to offer them to act like a partner blog in old europe! Specially ALTRIGHT seems to be very friendly to german history.

    You won’t find the readership in germany because the guys still know the articles! And for most of the germans it is much easier and faster to read the stuff in their own language.

    • Thank you, Meyer, presently I just haven’t the time to do anything necessary. I would have waited with starting the blog until my new book is finished, but after Auster’s challenge I decided to start right now. Yes, this blog is for the English-speaking public, not for the Germans, and yes, I know it has to be linked in the Anglo-Saxon blogosphere. Just be patient.

    • Thank you, Meyer, presently I just haven’t the time to do anything necessary. I would have waited with starting the blog until my new book is finished, but after Auster’s challenge I decided to start right now. Yes, this blog is for the English-speaking public, not for the Germans, and yes, I know it has to be linked in the Anglo-Saxon blogosphere. Just be patient.

    • Thank you, Meyer, presently I just haven’t the time to do anything necessary. I would have waited with starting the blog until my new book is finished, but after Auster’s challenge I decided to start right now. Yes, this blog is for the English-speaking public, not for the Germans, and yes, I know it has to be linked in the Anglo-Saxon blogosphere. Just be patient.

    • Thank you, Meyer, presently I just haven’t the time to do anything necessary. I would have waited with starting the blog until my new book is finished, but after Auster’s challenge I decided to start right now. Yes, this blog is for the English-speaking public, not for the Germans, and yes, I know it has to be linked in the Anglo-Saxon blogosphere. Just be patient.

  • @ War Blogger

    Give it a little time. At the end quality will make it.
    But there are a few questions:

    1. Where is the RSS-feed button? (I searched for it. That was the cause I came here today.)
    2. Are there enough links guiding to this blog? Are your own blogs linking to this one? Do the links to this blog in an
    3. Links … specially in english based sites?
    4. What about social media? Does a German-Views Twitter account exist? Is it linked up with similar anglo-saxon sites?
    5. What about commenting in blogs like VDARE, ALTRIGHT, and others with innert links to this blogs?
    6. Think about to offer them to act like a partner blog in old europe! Specially ALTRIGHT seems to be very friendly to german history.

    You won’t find the readership in germany because the guys still know the articles! And for most of the germans it is much easier and faster to read the stuff in their own language.

  • @ War Blogger

    Give it a little time. At the end quality will make it.
    But there are a few questions:

    1. Where is the RSS-feed button? (I searched for it. That was the cause I came here today.)
    2. Are there enough links guiding to this blog? Are your own blogs linking to this one? Do the links to this blog in an
    3. Links … specially in english based sites?
    4. What about social media? Does a German-Views Twitter account exist? Is it linked up with similar anglo-saxon sites?
    5. What about commenting in blogs like VDARE, ALTRIGHT, and others with innert links to this blogs?
    6. Think about to offer them to act like a partner blog in old europe! Specially ALTRIGHT seems to be very friendly to german history.

    You won’t find the readership in germany because the guys still know the articles! And for most of the germans it is much easier and faster to read the stuff in their own language.

  • @ War Blogger

    Give it a little time. At the end quality will make it.
    But there are a few questions:

    1. Where is the RSS-feed button? (I searched for it. That was the cause I came here today.)
    2. Are there enough links guiding to this blog? Are your own blogs linking to this one? Do the links to this blog in an
    3. Links … specially in english based sites?
    4. What about social media? Does a German-Views Twitter account exist? Is it linked up with similar anglo-saxon sites?
    5. What about commenting in blogs like VDARE, ALTRIGHT, and others with innert links to this blogs?
    6. Think about to offer them to act like a partner blog in old europe! Specially ALTRIGHT seems to be very friendly to german history.

    You won’t find the readership in germany because the guys still know the articles! And for most of the germans it is much easier and faster to read the stuff in their own language.

  • russ:

    During the German occupation of Norway, should Norwegians have been thankful to the Nazi troops, with dark hair & eyes, who invaded their villages, making babies with their blond-haired, blue eyed girls?

  • russ:

    During the German occupation of Norway, should Norwegians have been thankful to the Nazi troops, with dark hair & eyes, who invaded their villages, making babies with their blond-haired, blue eyed girls?

  • russ:

    During the German occupation of Norway, should Norwegians have been thankful to the Nazi troops, with dark hair & eyes, who invaded their villages, making babies with their blond-haired, blue eyed girls?

  • russ:

    During the German occupation of Norway, should Norwegians have been thankful to the Nazi troops, with dark hair & eyes, who invaded their villages, making babies with their blond-haired, blue eyed girls?

  • russ:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqdmdxRCpmc

    It turned out that Frida’s Nazi father hadn’t really died in the war, as Frida had been told, after impregnating her Norwegian mother.

    In fact, he had returned to his German wife and child, after the war, but when Frida later became a famous singer in the pop group “Abba”, her Nazi father emerged, hoping to cash in on Frida’s wealth and fame.

  • russ:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqdmdxRCpmc

    It turned out that Frida’s Nazi father hadn’t really died in the war, as Frida had been told, after impregnating her Norwegian mother.

    In fact, he had returned to his German wife and child, after the war, but when Frida later became a famous singer in the pop group “Abba”, her Nazi father emerged, hoping to cash in on Frida’s wealth and fame.

  • russ:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqdmdxRCpmc

    It turned out that Frida’s Nazi father hadn’t really died in the war, as Frida had been told, after impregnating her Norwegian mother.

    In fact, he had returned to his German wife and child, after the war, but when Frida later became a famous singer in the pop group “Abba”, her Nazi father emerged, hoping to cash in on Frida’s wealth and fame.

  • russ:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqdmdxRCpmc

    It turned out that Frida’s Nazi father hadn’t really died in the war, as Frida had been told, after impregnating her Norwegian mother.

    In fact, he had returned to his German wife and child, after the war, but when Frida later became a famous singer in the pop group “Abba”, her Nazi father emerged, hoping to cash in on Frida’s wealth and fame.

  • russ:

    Norwegian Views:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppjEUQ7NfCE

    When the five-year Nazi occupation of Norway finally ended, Frida’s mother moved to Sweden, where she died, a couple of years later.

  • russ:

    Norwegian Views:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppjEUQ7NfCE

    When the five-year Nazi occupation of Norway finally ended, Frida’s mother moved to Sweden, where she died, a couple of years later.

  • russ:

    Norwegian Views:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppjEUQ7NfCE

    When the five-year Nazi occupation of Norway finally ended, Frida’s mother moved to Sweden, where she died, a couple of years later.

  • russ:

    Norwegian Views:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppjEUQ7NfCE

    When the five-year Nazi occupation of Norway finally ended, Frida’s mother moved to Sweden, where she died, a couple of years later.

  • russ:

    I’m anti-zionist, any many would consider me anti-semitic.

    I’m not anti-German, but it’s difficult for me to feel pro-Nazi.

  • russ:

    I’m anti-zionist, any many would consider me anti-semitic.

    I’m not anti-German, but it’s difficult for me to feel pro-Nazi.

  • russ:

    I’m anti-zionist, any many would consider me anti-semitic.

    I’m not anti-German, but it’s difficult for me to feel pro-Nazi.

  • russ:

    I’m anti-zionist, any many would consider me anti-semitic.

    I’m not anti-German, but it’s difficult for me to feel pro-Nazi.

  • russ:

    I’m not a student of history, and I presume that people on this blog know more than I do, so if anyone can explain the Nazi occupation of Norway, I’d appreciate it.

    Thanks!

  • russ:

    I’m not a student of history, and I presume that people on this blog know more than I do, so if anyone can explain the Nazi occupation of Norway, I’d appreciate it.

    Thanks!

  • russ:

    I’m not a student of history, and I presume that people on this blog know more than I do, so if anyone can explain the Nazi occupation of Norway, I’d appreciate it.

    Thanks!

  • russ:

    I’m not a student of history, and I presume that people on this blog know more than I do, so if anyone can explain the Nazi occupation of Norway, I’d appreciate it.

    Thanks!

  • Russ:

    It is not about excusing everything the German Nazis did during the war. It is about crushing the official version that reads: Germans= evil / Allies= good. We are told that Hitler was a demonic, crazy bastard who did everything he did only because he was full of hate and wanted to kill.

    Nobody denies the occupation of Morway or that bad things happend. But one can show that the German Wehrmacht was not the evil horde that destroyed everything in its way and the armies of the allies were not the soldiers of light who brought us freedom.

    We are told that Germans are evil by nature. This is what we are fighting against.

    And on the occupation: Hitlers greatest strategic mistake was to think that all White Nations would be happy to assist the German struggle. But the UK did the opposite (which had nothing to do with jewish influence… (:… ) and Scandinavia wanted to be independent – oops.

    So no one wants you to “feel pro- Nazi” it is actually not even neccesary to be “pro” or “anti” Nazi, because the II. World War is long over.

    We only want you to look at historic events without the glasses of globalistic brainwash. WW II was not a book from Tolkien. There were not the forces of good fighting against those of evil.

    Well. this alone may perhaps be seen as “pro- Nazi”, because we are indoctrinated to believe the “truth” of German badness so much.

  • Russ:

    It is not about excusing everything the German Nazis did during the war. It is about crushing the official version that reads: Germans= evil / Allies= good. We are told that Hitler was a demonic, crazy bastard who did everything he did only because he was full of hate and wanted to kill.

    Nobody denies the occupation of Morway or that bad things happend. But one can show that the German Wehrmacht was not the evil horde that destroyed everything in its way and the armies of the allies were not the soldiers of light who brought us freedom.

    We are told that Germans are evil by nature. This is what we are fighting against.

    And on the occupation: Hitlers greatest strategic mistake was to think that all White Nations would be happy to assist the German struggle. But the UK did the opposite (which had nothing to do with jewish influence… (:… ) and Scandinavia wanted to be independent – oops.

    So no one wants you to “feel pro- Nazi” it is actually not even neccesary to be “pro” or “anti” Nazi, because the II. World War is long over.

    We only want you to look at historic events without the glasses of globalistic brainwash. WW II was not a book from Tolkien. There were not the forces of good fighting against those of evil.

    Well. this alone may perhaps be seen as “pro- Nazi”, because we are indoctrinated to believe the “truth” of German badness so much.

  • Russ:

    It is not about excusing everything the German Nazis did during the war. It is about crushing the official version that reads: Germans= evil / Allies= good. We are told that Hitler was a demonic, crazy bastard who did everything he did only because he was full of hate and wanted to kill.

    Nobody denies the occupation of Morway or that bad things happend. But one can show that the German Wehrmacht was not the evil horde that destroyed everything in its way and the armies of the allies were not the soldiers of light who brought us freedom.

    We are told that Germans are evil by nature. This is what we are fighting against.

    And on the occupation: Hitlers greatest strategic mistake was to think that all White Nations would be happy to assist the German struggle. But the UK did the opposite (which had nothing to do with jewish influence… (:… ) and Scandinavia wanted to be independent – oops.

    So no one wants you to “feel pro- Nazi” it is actually not even neccesary to be “pro” or “anti” Nazi, because the II. World War is long over.

    We only want you to look at historic events without the glasses of globalistic brainwash. WW II was not a book from Tolkien. There were not the forces of good fighting against those of evil.

    Well. this alone may perhaps be seen as “pro- Nazi”, because we are indoctrinated to believe the “truth” of German badness so much.

  • Russ:

    It is not about excusing everything the German Nazis did during the war. It is about crushing the official version that reads: Germans= evil / Allies= good. We are told that Hitler was a demonic, crazy bastard who did everything he did only because he was full of hate and wanted to kill.

    Nobody denies the occupation of Morway or that bad things happend. But one can show that the German Wehrmacht was not the evil horde that destroyed everything in its way and the armies of the allies were not the soldiers of light who brought us freedom.

    We are told that Germans are evil by nature. This is what we are fighting against.

    And on the occupation: Hitlers greatest strategic mistake was to think that all White Nations would be happy to assist the German struggle. But the UK did the opposite (which had nothing to do with jewish influence… (:… ) and Scandinavia wanted to be independent – oops.

    So no one wants you to “feel pro- Nazi” it is actually not even neccesary to be “pro” or “anti” Nazi, because the II. World War is long over.

    We only want you to look at historic events without the glasses of globalistic brainwash. WW II was not a book from Tolkien. There were not the forces of good fighting against those of evil.

    Well. this alone may perhaps be seen as “pro- Nazi”, because we are indoctrinated to believe the “truth” of German badness so much.

  • Sorry, it is Norway, with N, of course.

  • Sorry, it is Norway, with N, of course.

  • Sorry, it is Norway, with N, of course.

  • Sorry, it is Norway, with N, of course.

  • russ:

    Kairos:

    Thank you very much for responding.

    I reject the “Germans bad/Allies good” version of history, but I wonder if there aren’t revisionists, such as Carolyn Yeager perhaps, who would defend the occupation of Norway.

    Carolyn podacasts on Voice of Reason and Republic Broadcasting, and she mentioned recntly that she’s been reading this blog, so I’m hopeful that she’ll post a comment on this subject.

  • russ:

    Kairos:

    Thank you very much for responding.

    I reject the “Germans bad/Allies good” version of history, but I wonder if there aren’t revisionists, such as Carolyn Yeager perhaps, who would defend the occupation of Norway.

    Carolyn podacasts on Voice of Reason and Republic Broadcasting, and she mentioned recntly that she’s been reading this blog, so I’m hopeful that she’ll post a comment on this subject.

  • russ:

    Kairos:

    Thank you very much for responding.

    I reject the “Germans bad/Allies good” version of history, but I wonder if there aren’t revisionists, such as Carolyn Yeager perhaps, who would defend the occupation of Norway.

    Carolyn podacasts on Voice of Reason and Republic Broadcasting, and she mentioned recntly that she’s been reading this blog, so I’m hopeful that she’ll post a comment on this subject.

  • russ:

    Kairos:

    Thank you very much for responding.

    I reject the “Germans bad/Allies good” version of history, but I wonder if there aren’t revisionists, such as Carolyn Yeager perhaps, who would defend the occupation of Norway.

    Carolyn podacasts on Voice of Reason and Republic Broadcasting, and she mentioned recntly that she’s been reading this blog, so I’m hopeful that she’ll post a comment on this subject.

  • @ russ:

    First of all, sorry that I am answering only now. I’ve had too many jobs to be done at the same time. (Sorry for that, for the other commenters, too.)

    Well, you want to know why Hitler occupied Norway. The problem was that the British were going to occupy Norway themselves to get a basis to cut off Germany from Swedish ore deliveries Germany depended on for her weapon’s industry and warfare. When the German occupation of Norway (and Denmark) started on April 9, 1940, the British landing forces had already embarked for the invasion of Norway. This is not a revisionist theory of dubious sources, this is what any historian with knowledge of WWII will tell you. Check it!

    • Peter:

      Thank you for your explanation about Norway. David Irving states Germany did not want war with the west and the facts back this up. Germany made territorial claims for the return of Danzig, Memel and the Sudetenland, but never asked for the return of the western Gernan areas stolen from Germany. Hitler did not ask for the rerurn of Alsace-Lorraine, the German areas taken by Belgium or the Austrian Tyrolean area stolen by Italy. These were all German speaking areas that Hitler gave up as gone so Germany could have peace with the west. Besides Irving’s detailed explanation of Hitler’s many attempts to avoid and then end the war with Britain which someone has to read his books (or listen to one of his speeches) for the details, the solo flight of Rudolf Hess, the 3rd or 4th most powerful man in Germany to Scotland in 1941 in order to end the war between Germany and Britain is overwhelming evidence that Germany did not want war with Britain and the west.

      But Churchill and his financiers wanted war and that is why Hess was immediately put in jail, the British gov’t never talked to Hess about Germany’s offer, Hess was proclaimed “mad” or “insane” and held in jail until 1987 when Hess’s son Rudiger, Irving and others say Hess was murdered. If he was murdered, its because the British did not (and still don’t) want the truth to come out. But David Irving has explained with solid evidence why there was war betwwen Germany and Britain (and the rest of the west). The Focus group with money primarily coming from its Jewish members paid Churchill to make war against Germany when Churchill had severe financial trouble.

      David Irving discusses Churchill and his war here (10 parts): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKuXW2fLkz4

      In 1941 Great Britain invaded Iran, but while allied propaganda covers up Britain’s intentions and likes to blame Germany for every western European country it occupied before Britain could get there, the allied propagandists never mention Iran, which Britain illegally attacked and occupied for no apparent reason in 1941. The winners of a war don’t have to answer questions, but with some brave historians all the lies might come out.

      And lets not forget it was Britain and France that declared war on Germany that brought war to western Europe. Up until then, the war wa minor conflict between Germany and a country that didn’t even exist 20 years earlier. If China, Germany or some other country attacked the USA every time it started a war with a country (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and perhaps soon Iran) a world war war would start everty five years. But Germany had a much better excuse for attacking Poland than the USA has for any of the countries its attacked.

    • Peter:

      Thank you for your explanation about Norway. David Irving states Germany did not want war with the west and the facts back this up. Germany made territorial claims for the return of Danzig, Memel and the Sudetenland, but never asked for the return of the western Gernan areas stolen from Germany. Hitler did not ask for the rerurn of Alsace-Lorraine, the German areas taken by Belgium or the Austrian Tyrolean area stolen by Italy. These were all German speaking areas that Hitler gave up as gone so Germany could have peace with the west. Besides Irving’s detailed explanation of Hitler’s many attempts to avoid and then end the war with Britain which someone has to read his books (or listen to one of his speeches) for the details, the solo flight of Rudolf Hess, the 3rd or 4th most powerful man in Germany to Scotland in 1941 in order to end the war between Germany and Britain is overwhelming evidence that Germany did not want war with Britain and the west.

      But Churchill and his financiers wanted war and that is why Hess was immediately put in jail, the British gov’t never talked to Hess about Germany’s offer, Hess was proclaimed “mad” or “insane” and held in jail until 1987 when Hess’s son Rudiger, Irving and others say Hess was murdered. If he was murdered, its because the British did not (and still don’t) want the truth to come out. But David Irving has explained with solid evidence why there was war betwwen Germany and Britain (and the rest of the west). The Focus group with money primarily coming from its Jewish members paid Churchill to make war against Germany when Churchill had severe financial trouble.

      David Irving discusses Churchill and his war here (10 parts): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKuXW2fLkz4

      In 1941 Great Britain invaded Iran, but while allied propaganda covers up Britain’s intentions and likes to blame Germany for every western European country it occupied before Britain could get there, the allied propagandists never mention Iran, which Britain illegally attacked and occupied for no apparent reason in 1941. The winners of a war don’t have to answer questions, but with some brave historians all the lies might come out.

      And lets not forget it was Britain and France that declared war on Germany that brought war to western Europe. Up until then, the war wa minor conflict between Germany and a country that didn’t even exist 20 years earlier. If China, Germany or some other country attacked the USA every time it started a war with a country (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and perhaps soon Iran) a world war war would start everty five years. But Germany had a much better excuse for attacking Poland than the USA has for any of the countries its attacked.

    • Peter:

      Thank you for your explanation about Norway. David Irving states Germany did not want war with the west and the facts back this up. Germany made territorial claims for the return of Danzig, Memel and the Sudetenland, but never asked for the return of the western Gernan areas stolen from Germany. Hitler did not ask for the rerurn of Alsace-Lorraine, the German areas taken by Belgium or the Austrian Tyrolean area stolen by Italy. These were all German speaking areas that Hitler gave up as gone so Germany could have peace with the west. Besides Irving’s detailed explanation of Hitler’s many attempts to avoid and then end the war with Britain which someone has to read his books (or listen to one of his speeches) for the details, the solo flight of Rudolf Hess, the 3rd or 4th most powerful man in Germany to Scotland in 1941 in order to end the war between Germany and Britain is overwhelming evidence that Germany did not want war with Britain and the west.

      But Churchill and his financiers wanted war and that is why Hess was immediately put in jail, the British gov’t never talked to Hess about Germany’s offer, Hess was proclaimed “mad” or “insane” and held in jail until 1987 when Hess’s son Rudiger, Irving and others say Hess was murdered. If he was murdered, its because the British did not (and still don’t) want the truth to come out. But David Irving has explained with solid evidence why there was war betwwen Germany and Britain (and the rest of the west). The Focus group with money primarily coming from its Jewish members paid Churchill to make war against Germany when Churchill had severe financial trouble.

      David Irving discusses Churchill and his war here (10 parts): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKuXW2fLkz4

      In 1941 Great Britain invaded Iran, but while allied propaganda covers up Britain’s intentions and likes to blame Germany for every western European country it occupied before Britain could get there, the allied propagandists never mention Iran, which Britain illegally attacked and occupied for no apparent reason in 1941. The winners of a war don’t have to answer questions, but with some brave historians all the lies might come out.

      And lets not forget it was Britain and France that declared war on Germany that brought war to western Europe. Up until then, the war wa minor conflict between Germany and a country that didn’t even exist 20 years earlier. If China, Germany or some other country attacked the USA every time it started a war with a country (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and perhaps soon Iran) a world war war would start everty five years. But Germany had a much better excuse for attacking Poland than the USA has for any of the countries its attacked.

    • Peter:

      Thank you for your explanation about Norway. David Irving states Germany did not want war with the west and the facts back this up. Germany made territorial claims for the return of Danzig, Memel and the Sudetenland, but never asked for the return of the western Gernan areas stolen from Germany. Hitler did not ask for the rerurn of Alsace-Lorraine, the German areas taken by Belgium or the Austrian Tyrolean area stolen by Italy. These were all German speaking areas that Hitler gave up as gone so Germany could have peace with the west. Besides Irving’s detailed explanation of Hitler’s many attempts to avoid and then end the war with Britain which someone has to read his books (or listen to one of his speeches) for the details, the solo flight of Rudolf Hess, the 3rd or 4th most powerful man in Germany to Scotland in 1941 in order to end the war between Germany and Britain is overwhelming evidence that Germany did not want war with Britain and the west.

      But Churchill and his financiers wanted war and that is why Hess was immediately put in jail, the British gov’t never talked to Hess about Germany’s offer, Hess was proclaimed “mad” or “insane” and held in jail until 1987 when Hess’s son Rudiger, Irving and others say Hess was murdered. If he was murdered, its because the British did not (and still don’t) want the truth to come out. But David Irving has explained with solid evidence why there was war betwwen Germany and Britain (and the rest of the west). The Focus group with money primarily coming from its Jewish members paid Churchill to make war against Germany when Churchill had severe financial trouble.

      David Irving discusses Churchill and his war here (10 parts): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKuXW2fLkz4

      In 1941 Great Britain invaded Iran, but while allied propaganda covers up Britain’s intentions and likes to blame Germany for every western European country it occupied before Britain could get there, the allied propagandists never mention Iran, which Britain illegally attacked and occupied for no apparent reason in 1941. The winners of a war don’t have to answer questions, but with some brave historians all the lies might come out.

      And lets not forget it was Britain and France that declared war on Germany that brought war to western Europe. Up until then, the war wa minor conflict between Germany and a country that didn’t even exist 20 years earlier. If China, Germany or some other country attacked the USA every time it started a war with a country (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and perhaps soon Iran) a world war war would start everty five years. But Germany had a much better excuse for attacking Poland than the USA has for any of the countries its attacked.

  • @ russ:

    First of all, sorry that I am answering only now. I’ve had too many jobs to be done at the same time. (Sorry for that, for the other commenters, too.)

    Well, you want to know why Hitler occupied Norway. The problem was that the British were going to occupy Norway themselves to get a basis to cut off Germany from Swedish ore deliveries Germany depended on for her weapon’s industry and warfare. When the German occupation of Norway (and Denmark) started on April 9, 1940, the British landing forces had already embarked for the invasion of Norway. This is not a revisionist theory of dubious sources, this is what any historian with knowledge of WWII will tell you. Check it!

  • @ russ:

    First of all, sorry that I am answering only now. I’ve had too many jobs to be done at the same time. (Sorry for that, for the other commenters, too.)

    Well, you want to know why Hitler occupied Norway. The problem was that the British were going to occupy Norway themselves to get a basis to cut off Germany from Swedish ore deliveries Germany depended on for her weapon’s industry and warfare. When the German occupation of Norway (and Denmark) started on April 9, 1940, the British landing forces had already embarked for the invasion of Norway. This is not a revisionist theory of dubious sources, this is what any historian with knowledge of WWII will tell you. Check it!

  • @ russ:

    First of all, sorry that I am answering only now. I’ve had too many jobs to be done at the same time. (Sorry for that, for the other commenters, too.)

    Well, you want to know why Hitler occupied Norway. The problem was that the British were going to occupy Norway themselves to get a basis to cut off Germany from Swedish ore deliveries Germany depended on for her weapon’s industry and warfare. When the German occupation of Norway (and Denmark) started on April 9, 1940, the British landing forces had already embarked for the invasion of Norway. This is not a revisionist theory of dubious sources, this is what any historian with knowledge of WWII will tell you. Check it!

  • Szmit:

    Hi Manfred,
    I am writing this comment from part-German, part-Polish perpective, as I my father was of German origin and mother of Polish.
    Thanks for this excellent review of this most excellent book.
    The value of the book is even greater in view of WHO its author is or was. A high ranking general of Bundeswehr.

    I think the author had no other choice than to give facts rather than interpretation, and it’s lucky he got away with this. In his lectures ( a couple of which are available on youtube) he is more open and so, there is no doubt whom he holds responsible for the war – and it is not Hitler.

    The more I read about August-September 1939 the more I am reeeling from the astonishment over how short-sighted and STUPID the Polish leaders have been. They seem to have done nothing to curtail the pogroms against the German minority. They did nothing to come to an agreement with Germany despite the fact that German claims and wishes have been very moderate. Then, haveing themselves fled from Warschau, they ordered the defence of Warschau as a Festung which was genocidal and criminal (not to speak of the Rising in Warschau in 1944 which was even more criminal).
    The only thing which to a certain extent lightens their responsibility was the incredible pressure from Roosevelt/Bullitt accompanied by all kinds of promises and possibly – threats.
    Sven Hedin’s book “Amerika im Kampf der Kontinente” deals more extesively with this side of things. Hitler’s letter to Hedin upon receiving the book gives another layer: Hitler expresses his satisfaction over that he had smashed Poland, for otherwise he wouldn’t have build the strong army he did and wouldn’t have been able to prevent Stalin from flooding Europe.

    • LJ:

      “Hitler expresses his satisfaction over that he had smashed Poland, for otherwise he wouldn’t have build the strong army he did and wouldn’t have been able to prevent Stalin from flooding Europe.”

      Sure, because Hitler’s policy towards Poland actually was aimed against Stalin (with whom he did not cooperate at the time) and pushed the Soviet border further to the East. Hitler after all was quite fond of Poland.

      Only, all this isn’t true.

      One doesn’t have to paint Hitler into a saint to point out that Polish (and Czech and others) leaders were nationalist bastards too.

    • LJ:

      “Hitler expresses his satisfaction over that he had smashed Poland, for otherwise he wouldn’t have build the strong army he did and wouldn’t have been able to prevent Stalin from flooding Europe.”

      Sure, because Hitler’s policy towards Poland actually was aimed against Stalin (with whom he did not cooperate at the time) and pushed the Soviet border further to the East. Hitler after all was quite fond of Poland.

      Only, all this isn’t true.

      One doesn’t have to paint Hitler into a saint to point out that Polish (and Czech and others) leaders were nationalist bastards too.

    • LJ:

      “Hitler expresses his satisfaction over that he had smashed Poland, for otherwise he wouldn’t have build the strong army he did and wouldn’t have been able to prevent Stalin from flooding Europe.”

      Sure, because Hitler’s policy towards Poland actually was aimed against Stalin (with whom he did not cooperate at the time) and pushed the Soviet border further to the East. Hitler after all was quite fond of Poland.

      Only, all this isn’t true.

      One doesn’t have to paint Hitler into a saint to point out that Polish (and Czech and others) leaders were nationalist bastards too.

    • LJ:

      “Hitler expresses his satisfaction over that he had smashed Poland, for otherwise he wouldn’t have build the strong army he did and wouldn’t have been able to prevent Stalin from flooding Europe.”

      Sure, because Hitler’s policy towards Poland actually was aimed against Stalin (with whom he did not cooperate at the time) and pushed the Soviet border further to the East. Hitler after all was quite fond of Poland.

      Only, all this isn’t true.

      One doesn’t have to paint Hitler into a saint to point out that Polish (and Czech and others) leaders were nationalist bastards too.

  • Szmit:

    Hi Manfred,
    I am writing this comment from part-German, part-Polish perpective, as I my father was of German origin and mother of Polish.
    Thanks for this excellent review of this most excellent book.
    The value of the book is even greater in view of WHO its author is or was. A high ranking general of Bundeswehr.

    I think the author had no other choice than to give facts rather than interpretation, and it’s lucky he got away with this. In his lectures ( a couple of which are available on youtube) he is more open and so, there is no doubt whom he holds responsible for the war – and it is not Hitler.

    The more I read about August-September 1939 the more I am reeeling from the astonishment over how short-sighted and STUPID the Polish leaders have been. They seem to have done nothing to curtail the pogroms against the German minority. They did nothing to come to an agreement with Germany despite the fact that German claims and wishes have been very moderate. Then, haveing themselves fled from Warschau, they ordered the defence of Warschau as a Festung which was genocidal and criminal (not to speak of the Rising in Warschau in 1944 which was even more criminal).
    The only thing which to a certain extent lightens their responsibility was the incredible pressure from Roosevelt/Bullitt accompanied by all kinds of promises and possibly – threats.
    Sven Hedin’s book “Amerika im Kampf der Kontinente” deals more extesively with this side of things. Hitler’s letter to Hedin upon receiving the book gives another layer: Hitler expresses his satisfaction over that he had smashed Poland, for otherwise he wouldn’t have build the strong army he did and wouldn’t have been able to prevent Stalin from flooding Europe.

  • Szmit:

    Hi Manfred,
    I am writing this comment from part-German, part-Polish perpective, as I my father was of German origin and mother of Polish.
    Thanks for this excellent review of this most excellent book.
    The value of the book is even greater in view of WHO its author is or was. A high ranking general of Bundeswehr.

    I think the author had no other choice than to give facts rather than interpretation, and it’s lucky he got away with this. In his lectures ( a couple of which are available on youtube) he is more open and so, there is no doubt whom he holds responsible for the war – and it is not Hitler.

    The more I read about August-September 1939 the more I am reeeling from the astonishment over how short-sighted and STUPID the Polish leaders have been. They seem to have done nothing to curtail the pogroms against the German minority. They did nothing to come to an agreement with Germany despite the fact that German claims and wishes have been very moderate. Then, haveing themselves fled from Warschau, they ordered the defence of Warschau as a Festung which was genocidal and criminal (not to speak of the Rising in Warschau in 1944 which was even more criminal).
    The only thing which to a certain extent lightens their responsibility was the incredible pressure from Roosevelt/Bullitt accompanied by all kinds of promises and possibly – threats.
    Sven Hedin’s book “Amerika im Kampf der Kontinente” deals more extesively with this side of things. Hitler’s letter to Hedin upon receiving the book gives another layer: Hitler expresses his satisfaction over that he had smashed Poland, for otherwise he wouldn’t have build the strong army he did and wouldn’t have been able to prevent Stalin from flooding Europe.

  • Szmit:

    Hi Manfred,
    I am writing this comment from part-German, part-Polish perpective, as I my father was of German origin and mother of Polish.
    Thanks for this excellent review of this most excellent book.
    The value of the book is even greater in view of WHO its author is or was. A high ranking general of Bundeswehr.

    I think the author had no other choice than to give facts rather than interpretation, and it’s lucky he got away with this. In his lectures ( a couple of which are available on youtube) he is more open and so, there is no doubt whom he holds responsible for the war – and it is not Hitler.

    The more I read about August-September 1939 the more I am reeeling from the astonishment over how short-sighted and STUPID the Polish leaders have been. They seem to have done nothing to curtail the pogroms against the German minority. They did nothing to come to an agreement with Germany despite the fact that German claims and wishes have been very moderate. Then, haveing themselves fled from Warschau, they ordered the defence of Warschau as a Festung which was genocidal and criminal (not to speak of the Rising in Warschau in 1944 which was even more criminal).
    The only thing which to a certain extent lightens their responsibility was the incredible pressure from Roosevelt/Bullitt accompanied by all kinds of promises and possibly – threats.
    Sven Hedin’s book “Amerika im Kampf der Kontinente” deals more extesively with this side of things. Hitler’s letter to Hedin upon receiving the book gives another layer: Hitler expresses his satisfaction over that he had smashed Poland, for otherwise he wouldn’t have build the strong army he did and wouldn’t have been able to prevent Stalin from flooding Europe.

  • Schultze-Rhonhof’s book “1939 – The War That Had Many Fathers” is now available in English translation at Lulu. The translation contains some new sections and material not included in the German editions. http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/1939—the-war-that-had-many-fathers/13832091?productTrackingContext=search_results/search_shelf/center/1

  • Schultze-Rhonhof’s book “1939 – The War That Had Many Fathers” is now available in English translation at Lulu. The translation contains some new sections and material not included in the German editions. http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/1939—the-war-that-had-many-fathers/13832091?productTrackingContext=search_results/search_shelf/center/1

  • Schultze-Rhonhof’s book “1939 – The War That Had Many Fathers” is now available in English translation at Lulu. The translation contains some new sections and material not included in the German editions. http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/1939—the-war-that-had-many-fathers/13832091?productTrackingContext=search_results/search_shelf/center/1

  • Schultze-Rhonhof’s book “1939 – The War That Had Many Fathers” is now available in English translation at Lulu. The translation contains some new sections and material not included in the German editions. http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/1939—the-war-that-had-many-fathers/13832091?productTrackingContext=search_results/search_shelf/center/1

  • Paul Mannstein:

    Incidentally, Poland not only mistreated its German minority badly but also others living in its newly acquired territory such as for example the Jewish, Ukranian, Lithuanian, Belarusian, Kashubian etc.

    As a matter of fact in the 1920s Jews from Poland flooded into Germany to escape Polish discrimination. The were refered to as “Ost Juden” East Jews by the German population.

  • Paul Mannstein:

    Incidentally, Poland not only mistreated its German minority badly but also others living in its newly acquired territory such as for example the Jewish, Ukranian, Lithuanian, Belarusian, Kashubian etc.

    As a matter of fact in the 1920s Jews from Poland flooded into Germany to escape Polish discrimination. The were refered to as “Ost Juden” East Jews by the German population.

  • Paul Mannstein:

    Incidentally, Poland not only mistreated its German minority badly but also others living in its newly acquired territory such as for example the Jewish, Ukranian, Lithuanian, Belarusian, Kashubian etc.

    As a matter of fact in the 1920s Jews from Poland flooded into Germany to escape Polish discrimination. The were refered to as “Ost Juden” East Jews by the German population.

  • Paul Mannstein:

    Incidentally, Poland not only mistreated its German minority badly but also others living in its newly acquired territory such as for example the Jewish, Ukranian, Lithuanian, Belarusian, Kashubian etc.

    As a matter of fact in the 1920s Jews from Poland flooded into Germany to escape Polish discrimination. The were refered to as “Ost Juden” East Jews by the German population.

  • Jenny:

    Se puede comprar este libro en Español? Lo he buscado pero no lo encuentro.

  • Jenny:

    Se puede comprar este libro en Español? Lo he buscado pero no lo encuentro.

  • Jenny:

    Se puede comprar este libro en Español? Lo he buscado pero no lo encuentro.

  • Jenny:

    Se puede comprar este libro en Español? Lo he buscado pero no lo encuentro.

  • MaxMorx:

    When the WWI armistice was signed on NOv. 11th, 1918 the British Empire instead of ceasing hostilities tightended the criminal food blockade against the German civilian population, whichs death rate since early 1917 was higher than the rate of losses in the field. In the end 800.000 civilians had died, the rate of diphteria, rachitis and tuberculosis in children was up to 13% and a British JOurnal titled: “The Huns of 1940″ wtote that “those Germans still in the wombs of their mothers would be condemned to live a life in physical inferiority”.
    The new German government under the pressure of a running genocide signed an absurd and foul “confession” of unique war guilt. Based on that ” confession”, oppressed by the perpetrator of the real crime, 13% of territory and 20% of the population was lost.
    In 1922 in the Yearbook of the League of Nations “reparations” to be paid to the perpetrator in an amount of 226 Billion Goldmark were fixed, the COMPLETE Reich having an estimated value of 350 Billion Gold Mark at the time being.
    The next German generation being born with their surrounding dying on malnutrition or tuberculosis certainly did not see a legal, ethical or moral obligation to give their wealth to a mass murderer based on a signature oppressed on their fathers by genocide. Nobody would, not yesterday, not today, not tommorrow.
    Interestingly the perpetrator of the first genocide himself provoked the next war by backing Poland to cut negotiations about something so unimportant like a motorway.
    Then the perpertrator comitted the well known air raids, the Nuremberg show trials, post WWII starvation of the German civilians and as top of all the notorious “re education”.
    I ask myself why in 50 years of German school and academic education I have neither heard one single word about the Balfour Declaration, the Haavara agreement, the Zionist/SS cooperation, the world wide Eugenics movement which perfectly explains the racism of the Nazis, the US origin of the concept of the blond and blue eyed master race and the post WWII genocide on the German people.
    From my own professional view the “Never Ever” affirmations of the Germans, the overcast national “Antifa Opera” or the deliberate down sizing of the Dresden Massacre are not a true change of the German mind towards “Pro West”. It is a sign of a massive post traumatic stress disorder, the declarations of friendship to the Western nations are highly pathologic “trauma bonding” symptoms, also called “Stockholm Syndrome”, the German self betrayal to have come to grips wiith the past is neurotic disease protection at its best.
    Those neurotic architectonical artworks of the psyche might be comfortable and easy to be exploited in the short term, in the long term they will damage everyone and everything.

    http://vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres8/KEELINGgruesom.pdf
    http://thecounterpunch.hubpages.com/hub/The-Haavara-Agreement
    http://www.effedieffe.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9185&Itemid=152
    http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/offSiteArchive/www.sfgate.com/

  • MaxMorx:

    When the WWI armistice was signed on NOv. 11th, 1918 the British Empire instead of ceasing hostilities tightended the criminal food blockade against the German civilian population, whichs death rate since early 1917 was higher than the rate of losses in the field. In the end 800.000 civilians had died, the rate of diphteria, rachitis and tuberculosis in children was up to 13% and a British JOurnal titled: “The Huns of 1940″ wtote that “those Germans still in the wombs of their mothers would be condemned to live a life in physical inferiority”.
    The new German government under the pressure of a running genocide signed an absurd and foul “confession” of unique war guilt. Based on that ” confession”, oppressed by the perpetrator of the real crime, 13% of territory and 20% of the population was lost.
    In 1922 in the Yearbook of the League of Nations “reparations” to be paid to the perpetrator in an amount of 226 Billion Goldmark were fixed, the COMPLETE Reich having an estimated value of 350 Billion Gold Mark at the time being.
    The next German generation being born with their surrounding dying on malnutrition or tuberculosis certainly did not see a legal, ethical or moral obligation to give their wealth to a mass murderer based on a signature oppressed on their fathers by genocide. Nobody would, not yesterday, not today, not tommorrow.
    Interestingly the perpetrator of the first genocide himself provoked the next war by backing Poland to cut negotiations about something so unimportant like a motorway.
    Then the perpertrator comitted the well known air raids, the Nuremberg show trials, post WWII starvation of the German civilians and as top of all the notorious “re education”.
    I ask myself why in 50 years of German school and academic education I have neither heard one single word about the Balfour Declaration, the Haavara agreement, the Zionist/SS cooperation, the world wide Eugenics movement which perfectly explains the racism of the Nazis, the US origin of the concept of the blond and blue eyed master race and the post WWII genocide on the German people.
    From my own professional view the “Never Ever” affirmations of the Germans, the overcast national “Antifa Opera” or the deliberate down sizing of the Dresden Massacre are not a true change of the German mind towards “Pro West”. It is a sign of a massive post traumatic stress disorder, the declarations of friendship to the Western nations are highly pathologic “trauma bonding” symptoms, also called “Stockholm Syndrome”, the German self betrayal to have come to grips wiith the past is neurotic disease protection at its best.
    Those neurotic architectonical artworks of the psyche might be comfortable and easy to be exploited in the short term, in the long term they will damage everyone and everything.

    http://vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres8/KEELINGgruesom.pdf
    http://thecounterpunch.hubpages.com/hub/The-Haavara-Agreement
    http://www.effedieffe.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9185&Itemid=152
    http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/offSiteArchive/www.sfgate.com/

  • MaxMorx:

    When the WWI armistice was signed on NOv. 11th, 1918 the British Empire instead of ceasing hostilities tightended the criminal food blockade against the German civilian population, whichs death rate since early 1917 was higher than the rate of losses in the field. In the end 800.000 civilians had died, the rate of diphteria, rachitis and tuberculosis in children was up to 13% and a British JOurnal titled: “The Huns of 1940″ wtote that “those Germans still in the wombs of their mothers would be condemned to live a life in physical inferiority”.
    The new German government under the pressure of a running genocide signed an absurd and foul “confession” of unique war guilt. Based on that ” confession”, oppressed by the perpetrator of the real crime, 13% of territory and 20% of the population was lost.
    In 1922 in the Yearbook of the League of Nations “reparations” to be paid to the perpetrator in an amount of 226 Billion Goldmark were fixed, the COMPLETE Reich having an estimated value of 350 Billion Gold Mark at the time being.
    The next German generation being born with their surrounding dying on malnutrition or tuberculosis certainly did not see a legal, ethical or moral obligation to give their wealth to a mass murderer based on a signature oppressed on their fathers by genocide. Nobody would, not yesterday, not today, not tommorrow.
    Interestingly the perpetrator of the first genocide himself provoked the next war by backing Poland to cut negotiations about something so unimportant like a motorway.
    Then the perpertrator comitted the well known air raids, the Nuremberg show trials, post WWII starvation of the German civilians and as top of all the notorious “re education”.
    I ask myself why in 50 years of German school and academic education I have neither heard one single word about the Balfour Declaration, the Haavara agreement, the Zionist/SS cooperation, the world wide Eugenics movement which perfectly explains the racism of the Nazis, the US origin of the concept of the blond and blue eyed master race and the post WWII genocide on the German people.
    From my own professional view the “Never Ever” affirmations of the Germans, the overcast national “Antifa Opera” or the deliberate down sizing of the Dresden Massacre are not a true change of the German mind towards “Pro West”. It is a sign of a massive post traumatic stress disorder, the declarations of friendship to the Western nations are highly pathologic “trauma bonding” symptoms, also called “Stockholm Syndrome”, the German self betrayal to have come to grips wiith the past is neurotic disease protection at its best.
    Those neurotic architectonical artworks of the psyche might be comfortable and easy to be exploited in the short term, in the long term they will damage everyone and everything.

    http://vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres8/KEELINGgruesom.pdf
    http://thecounterpunch.hubpages.com/hub/The-Haavara-Agreement
    http://www.effedieffe.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9185&Itemid=152
    http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/offSiteArchive/www.sfgate.com/

  • MaxMorx:

    When the WWI armistice was signed on NOv. 11th, 1918 the British Empire instead of ceasing hostilities tightended the criminal food blockade against the German civilian population, whichs death rate since early 1917 was higher than the rate of losses in the field. In the end 800.000 civilians had died, the rate of diphteria, rachitis and tuberculosis in children was up to 13% and a British JOurnal titled: “The Huns of 1940″ wtote that “those Germans still in the wombs of their mothers would be condemned to live a life in physical inferiority”.
    The new German government under the pressure of a running genocide signed an absurd and foul “confession” of unique war guilt. Based on that ” confession”, oppressed by the perpetrator of the real crime, 13% of territory and 20% of the population was lost.
    In 1922 in the Yearbook of the League of Nations “reparations” to be paid to the perpetrator in an amount of 226 Billion Goldmark were fixed, the COMPLETE Reich having an estimated value of 350 Billion Gold Mark at the time being.
    The next German generation being born with their surrounding dying on malnutrition or tuberculosis certainly did not see a legal, ethical or moral obligation to give their wealth to a mass murderer based on a signature oppressed on their fathers by genocide. Nobody would, not yesterday, not today, not tommorrow.
    Interestingly the perpetrator of the first genocide himself provoked the next war by backing Poland to cut negotiations about something so unimportant like a motorway.
    Then the perpertrator comitted the well known air raids, the Nuremberg show trials, post WWII starvation of the German civilians and as top of all the notorious “re education”.
    I ask myself why in 50 years of German school and academic education I have neither heard one single word about the Balfour Declaration, the Haavara agreement, the Zionist/SS cooperation, the world wide Eugenics movement which perfectly explains the racism of the Nazis, the US origin of the concept of the blond and blue eyed master race and the post WWII genocide on the German people.
    From my own professional view the “Never Ever” affirmations of the Germans, the overcast national “Antifa Opera” or the deliberate down sizing of the Dresden Massacre are not a true change of the German mind towards “Pro West”. It is a sign of a massive post traumatic stress disorder, the declarations of friendship to the Western nations are highly pathologic “trauma bonding” symptoms, also called “Stockholm Syndrome”, the German self betrayal to have come to grips wiith the past is neurotic disease protection at its best.
    Those neurotic architectonical artworks of the psyche might be comfortable and easy to be exploited in the short term, in the long term they will damage everyone and everything.

    http://vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres8/KEELINGgruesom.pdf
    http://thecounterpunch.hubpages.com/hub/The-Haavara-Agreement
    http://www.effedieffe.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9185&Itemid=152
    http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/offSiteArchive/www.sfgate.com/

Kommentieren